Wolf 2uk wrote:
I think it's begun, to be honest, but much of the racism which is surfacing at the moment is cloaked in what is now refered to as culturism.Francois

I beg to disagree. I believe if it has started (I think it has in Europe and is growing)it  is a latent belief that the Culture of the West is under grave threat from "Other" Cultures, and it is not real Racism as such. The way of life which has improved over a period (Women's Voting rights-Equal standing for all) is under threat, more so with the Women in our society. Equality and freedom for all should be the watch word and yet we are seeing in Towns that Culture that gave freedom,  being pushed back.
What is 'the culture of the west?' 

Equal standing for all has yet to be reached even in our western countries, and there are elements within our own countries which certainly cannot be defined as of representing "other" cultures which continue to oppose equality for all.

It is racism, John. It just says that, instead of some being inferior based on race, there are individuals which we view as inferior because of their ethnical heritage which we then insist defines them culturally. It relies on the same generalizations racism does, and factually makes it more difficult for some individuals to integrate based, not on who they are, but what they are perceived and defined to be.

I oppose multiculturalism, but I oppose culturism equally. And let's be blunt about the culturism that predominates in Europe and which deals in this tale called 'The Islamicization of Europe.' As such, people associated with the Arab world will be painted by some as a threat to the 'national culture' and face prejudice, often with little regard to their level of integration and acceptance of our laws. In the USA, illegal immigration has lead to culturism targetting mainly Mexicans, as well as blacks - but some whites won't mingle with blacks pretending that it's not about color, but their culture instead. How a black individual born and raised in the USA is not culturally American is an interesting concept...

Sure, there are people from 'other cultures' I disagree with on some issues. There are also plenty of people who can only be defined as part of 'my culture' that I also disagree with on many issues. So in the end, what is culture? It is odd that people who favor culturism never take the time to define what culture is, and only speak of culture in very broad, 'us vs them' terms. From what I know, they also usually have a 'us vs them' philosophy in regards to their own citizenry, based on political or social ideology. Culturism, like racism, is based on painted some as a threat, it is a fear based ideology that only seeks confrontation, ans as such dominance, and as such it's part of the problem. Oddly, multiculturalism is also based on fear - the fear to say some values we hold and that our laws are not negociable and that all must abide by the same laws. I find multiculturalists are, in their own way, just as prejudiced as culturists. One ideology does not tolerate "others" while the other ideology assumes "others" cannot integrate, and so both these extremes, as they are extremes, are inherently flawed in my view.

  

Edited 1 time by Apr 12 11 4:53 PM.